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Postby David Elliott » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:33 pm

One of the things I am immediately impressed by the most about any singer, is their ability (or lack of) being able to be in "tune", or their sense of pitch. Unfortunately, just because a person makes their living by singing (a professional), doesn't always mean they possess this talent or ability, as is evidenced by the many "singers" who really don't have good voices at all, and the often thunderous applause being given to some of them after a performance when in fact, some of them can barely "carry a tune in a rain barrel" as the old expression goes... So much for the general public's opinion! :lol:

Here is a lady who IMHO, "filled the bill" in all those things, perfect pitch, perfect key, perfect delivery!

Sadly, she is no longer with us, having succumbed to cancer at a very early age.

The great Eva Cassidy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSXYu-3r ... re=related

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Re: Perfect Pitch

Postby rhirvine » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:12 pm

i "discovered" her long after she died. I love her cover of many great ballads. Her voice is haunting, special. thanks for mentioning her david.
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Re: Perfect Pitch

Postby rhirvine » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:19 pm

and her playing was very nice too
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Re: Perfect Pitch

Postby Roger Pratt » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:10 am

I love Eva Cassidy's music!!
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Re: Perfect Pitch

Postby thenorm » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:38 am

I posted a clip of her on Facebook. She is a trifecta plus one... Pretty...good voice...good guitar techinque...Soul...

On the topic of 'perfect pitch' Anita Carter of the Carter girls had perfect pitch. I have a feeling Alison Krause has it too, because she sings in tune with no vibrato.

Legendary engineer Bill Porter had perfect pitch but he was one of the people who could/did hear sounds in colors. They have a name for this condition.
Synthesia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia

During my music store days we ran across a pretty girl who claimed to hear in colors and had perfect pitch. The amazing thing about her, in our tests, was that she did indeed have perfect pitch as far as we were able to determing using at hand guitars etc but her condition did not reckognize dissonance.

There is a thing close to perfect pitch which is actually "aquired pitch" where you learn your vocal range and learn how to depend on this. This is (I think) the basis for those 'courses' that promise to teach you perfect pitch
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Re: Perfect Pitch

Postby David Elliott » Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:58 am

Well, naturally any mention of Eva Cassidy's talents would be remiss if not redirecting the reader to her arrangement of "Somewhere Over The Rainbow", http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce-5OWBN ... re=related
and for those unfamiliar with her, I'd suggest they check out the YouTube sidebar for many of her videos that have been uploaded.

Eva still has a website, (actually several, just Google her), if you want to know more about her, and for the dedicated fan (like me), her Mother wrote a very good book about Eva called, appropriately, "Songbird".

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Re: Perfect Pitch

Postby RonBloor » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:24 am

Thank you for posting those David... It would seem the good die young... well sometimes not so young, but in her case she was definitely way too young. What an amazing talent.
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Re: Perfect Pitch

Postby Richard Hudson » Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:10 am

David, I am glad you brought Eva to our attention again. I never knew about her until you posted a video of her singing Somewhere Over The Rainbow some time ago. Her voice and delivery is almost unbelievable. As you mentioned, perfect pitch. She sings every single note precisely on pitch, instantly, no slurs, she is on it immediately. Another notable quality is the ability to hold a note with no vibrato. She was amazing and it is heartbreaking to think she is gone at such an early age.
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Re: Perfect Pitch

Postby RandeDager » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:31 am

David, one of my irritations is for people NOT to notice when the notes aren't "right on". My guess is that the fact that this bothers you would indicate that you may have close to, if not exactly, perfect pitch yourself. I know that there are degrees of sensitivity and people don't have to be off by an entire half-step to be noticeable by most listeners, but many listeners don't seem to mind hearing notes that are off by enough to really bother me. Of course, I'm not in their heads but when I mention it and those with me claim that it "sounded fine" to them, that tells me something. Of course, there are those who might assume that I was just imagining things.

In the "Museum of Science and Industry" in Chicago there used to be an electronic "pitch sensitivity tester" where you pushed a button to randomly generate a reference tone and then you'd push another button to hear a comparison tone which you could alter by turning a dial until you felt that the two tones matched. When you were finished you would push third button to give you a numerical result to see how far off you were in trying to match the tones. It was based on a percentage of "distance" there was between the two tones. It registered from an octave below the reference tone to an octave above. Anything outside this range wouldn't be indicated. Most people would continue going back and forth between the two tones until they sounded like they matched and then push the third button to find out their score. What I enjoyed doing was to push the reference tone button only one time and then never touch it again, while I tried to match the second tone against what my memory told me. I usually got 100%, which was right on. I was 13 and had been playing the guitar for 8 years when I last did this. I haven't been back since and I'm not even sure if it even still exists.

It is also believed by some that "perfect pitch" can be learned or developed. A friend of mine purchased a perfect pitch course a number of years ago and allowed me to look at it. Just as I saw in the posts here, the developer uses the term "colors" to describe the differences in notes and their characteristics.

There wasn't much more I could do about that since the age of 13 but I have managed to greatly develop my sense of "relative pitch", which allows for me to know the structure of the chords and harmonies when I hear them. My "downfall" (if you want to call it that) is not knowing what they are called. But finding them doesn't seem to be much of a problem these days, but that's after many many years of trial and error. Anyway, my friend told me that the same company that sells the course in perfect pitch also claims to have a relative pitch course. I always knew that this could be taught, but I've been skeptical about just anyone developing their sense of perfect pitch, which the course developer claims that "anyone can do". But then I guess there are other skills that some people are born with that be developed by others who aren't. Sorry about the "long-windedness".
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Re: Perfect Pitch

Postby thenorm » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:54 am

If you enter

test your musical pitch

A bunch of pitch test site pop up. I haven't tried any of them but the idea looks interesting
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